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Old Nov 21, 2007, 07:10 PM // 19:10   #1
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I just love to start up this debate in ascalon city ^^
Basically, whenever i ask the question, i ALWAYS get an equal amount of preference for both.
I ask "in your oppinion, what is better, greens or golds?"
some say "green" and then someone say "gold" and the other guy goes "GREEN", and then someone says "gold is buffed n better" after which someone replies "greens are rarer and better looking".... and so on..

I would really like to get the record set straight...
I mean, I know white is everyday stuff, and then commes slightly better blue, then interesing purple... and then?? green, gold (best) ... or gold, green (best) ...???

For the record, i have found and identified 4 golds and not ONE green, which tells me that greens are, in fact, more rare. but are they more valuable? better stats??? ...

Someone, please set the record straight... how is it supposed to go??
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 07:17 PM // 19:17   #2
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Greens will drop with perfect mods on them, if you are not on the beginning islands in nightfall or factions (not sure about Proph), and they only drop from bosses. Golds will drop from almost any monster, but will not have perfect mods. If you check out wiki, you can find a list of all greens and who drops em. Golds seem to come in more skins though. It really depends on the skin you want, there is no "better" one.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 07:18 PM // 19:18   #3
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Greens drop only from bosses and have always perfect stats (unless starting island green) and unique name.
Golds drop randomly with random mods. Golds are customiseable and greens are not. Golds can have lower req than greens, but its usually higher.

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Old Nov 21, 2007, 07:19 PM // 19:19   #4
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Greens are rarer than golds in that only bosses can drop greens, however, that doesn't mean that greens are better than golds (or purples for that matter). The best weapon is the weapon that works the best with your current build. For example, Ghial's Staff, a fairly nice staff for an MM, but not that good for a blood necro. If you have a weapon that you like and you think works well with your build, who gives a crap what others think, it's your character, your build, your weapon, they have no say in any of that, unless you let them.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38   #5
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Greens drop only from bosses and have always perfect stats (unless starting island green) and unique name.
Golds drop randomly with random mods. Golds are customiseable and greens are not. Golds can have lower req than greens, but its usually higher.

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Yes they are
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42   #6
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This is indeed a debatable question. What it boils down to is looks. Greens are yes better but gold can have the same or better mods (lower req) and have an awesome skin that you want. What I mean is, if you want something rad like a crystalline sword, no boss drops this so you have to get it from a gold/purple item, but then you're risking price and availability because gold are rarer than greens.

My final though is that Golds are better because they're customizable and you can get what skin you like.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 08:48 PM // 20:48   #7
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Yes they are
He was referring to changing mods/colour, not the +20% dmg.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 08:49 PM // 20:49   #8
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Yes they are
There may be few exceptions...
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 09:52 PM // 21:52   #9
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Golds are better because, if you so choose, you can change the mods. Say you have an armor +7 mod and you want to switch it out, you can. If it was a green weapon you are stuck with the +7 mod.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 10:01 PM // 22:01   #10
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Greens are always perfect (except the noob ones) great for Heroes and for the person that just wants to play the game and not worry about finding components and wasting a lot of gold etc… You can kill the boss that carriers it over and over and over till it drops. It will drop sometime for you if you do it enough

Golds- (90% of golds are considered crap by collectors) This is the hunt for the perfect Item. It is this that drives the collector the rarity. You also can change what you have.
Rarity of certain skins mixed with the rarity of requirements compile to very rare item. Also chests/monster are Random drops from chests. You never know if you will get one

In short

Green – kill boss that has it over and over and you will get it sometime. Rare but anyone can do it

Gold – Open chests or kill monsters totally random drop falls. You could get purple or you could get a gold. You get gold to drop X Skin style X REQ + Mods = Priceless Gold Item Acquired

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Old Nov 21, 2007, 10:01 PM // 22:01   #11
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I prefer using greens on my characters. The reason: cheaper perfect mods and cool skins.

If/when I manage to get rich I will get rare skinned golds. Until then, I'll just sell 'em and buy other, more important things for my characters.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50   #12
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Pick the stats you want in your weapon. Pick the skin you want. If there is a green that matches that, then the cheapest one is better.

If there isn't a green that matches the skin and stats, then the golds are the only option. Well, you might get to chose blues and purples if your talking about an inscribable skin.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 11:05 PM // 23:05   #13
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thx for all the answers guys i was just wondering, i have heard people mention stuff like diamonds and onyx too. what are these? are they yet another class of raritees or something completely different?
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15   #14
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Golds for "proper" stat weapons that you use alot

Greens for those werid gimmicks

Diamonds and onyx are crafting materials used destroyer weapons
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 12:22 AM // 00:22   #15
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Diomonds and onyx and stuff are actual items. Think of them as very rare, expensive pieces of cloth/iron.
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40   #16
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Ok well

Golds have the potential to be "better" than greens since they can be fully modded, dyed, and inscribed. (this is the only reason since its adjustable)

Greens come perfect and use rare or semi common skins(not including those presearing items). But they can't be modded.

Really its an ambiguous argument. Golds can drop unmaxed and with cruddy mods. In this case Greens would win. But at the same time a maxed gold with nonperfect mods drops. You can mod the gold to suit your needs and it can be better than a green. The thing with greens is that if you want a "specific" thing you just have to hope you are lucky and GW has already come up with that weapon.

Heres a great personal example:

For my dervish i wanted a nice skinned scythe with 15^enchanted zealous mod and +20 health mod. I looked up scythes on guildwiki and came up with no matches, closest was a 15^50 with those. So in the end I bought a saurian scythe, stuck those individual mods and boom its better than the greens cause it fits my own needs.

Things like skins and req also matter. So purples or blues could potentially have the same skin and you can just mod it.

EDIT: diamonds and onyx are soley used for destroyer weapons as of this point.

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Old Nov 22, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06   #17
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Most people are like:

Gold Weapon: Wow man cool you can afford some nice weapons there /bow

Green Weapon: Meh Dude, even my mother can afford that.
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 03:12 AM // 03:12   #18
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Golds and greens of the exact same stats are equal. The color of an item doesn't affect its strength.
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 03:22 AM // 03:22   #19
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*didn't bother reading above posts, just the first*

For my first year or so of playing, I always believed greens were better. Now I understand that golds are much much better. The amount of useful stats on greens has been left out. For example, there aren't any +10 vs species shields except for vs demons, and only one vs element for one requirement type [NF endgame Forgotten Shields] while there are many many repeats of +30 -5/20%.
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 04:23 AM // 04:23   #20
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Golds. Way more better skins with Golds rather than Greens.

(i.e., Chaos Axe.)
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